{"type": "feed", "children": [{"name": "Google I/O Chrome Follow session 2021-05-19", "url": "https://news.indieweb.org/en", "syndication": "https://news.indieweb.org/en", "content": "\nKevin Marks:  I'm going to tweet the Chrome RSS session\n\nShekhar Sharad:  when we talked to people, they cared about a lot of different publishers on the web and wanted ot be updated about all the content from them\nfrom the publishers they want to build an audience and keep in touch with them.\nwe want to bring the follow functionality to the open web using standards in chrome \nwe want this on open standards such as rss, and make the least amount of work for web publishers, and other readers can take advantage of\nwe want this to be predictable via rss for which content to include, make follow/unfollow easy and opt out\n\nJanice Wong:  as I follow a site the content will appear in a new follow section on the new tab page\nthere is a cog button to manage your follows and unfollow them\nlooks at blog whatsericplaying.com and clicks on follow, which redirects to the following tab (shows posts chrononologically)\n[what's show are preview pages]\nthis will appear on Chrome android in USA in the next few weeks, then other countreis later\n\nNick Krasney:  what exactly is RSS? it's been around since 1990s and widely used. webmasters can publish RSS or Atom google will poll feeds for this\nNo RSS? No problem - we can build a feed from your content too, but it may be slower. Google will poll RSS often\nuse link rel=\"alternate\" to specify a feed. You can opt out - it will show the follow button but won't generate a feed.\nYes we use WebSub at google to know when a feed is updated\n\nJanice Wong:  notifications and feed updates are different options from a site\n\nNick Krasney:  the browser is not fetching RSS feeds, that's done server side\nwe support RSS and Atom now, we're interested in other feeds too, but tell us more\n\nJanice Wong:  q: is it synced between browsers? yes, we will have this in prefs if you're logged in - we are looking at other platforms too\nq: overlap with google news app? Not shared between them\n\nShekhar Sharad:  q: follow button embeddable eg navigator.follow? we would love to know more about this\n\nNick Krasney:  we can give some traffic info, but not who follows\n\nJanice Wong:  if you follow a lot fo people it may get cluttered -we're looking at making this better\nq: inbox folders, read count etc? No- we're not treating it as an inbox but a feed of content\n\nNick Krasney:  if you're a publisher make sure you update your RSS - please try in chrome canary on android and see us\nfollow us on twitter @WebCreators and discuss there\nq: can I create an app that reads google's unified feed? not announced now, but what would be helpful?\n\nShekhar Sharad:  q: can this tab show in Google Discover? we're starting wiht Chrome and work with the open web\n\nKevin Marks:  is this the same mechanism as podcasts in google search?\n\nJanice Wong:  we are not building from the same stack that follows podcasts, similar tech but not shared\nq: will we get a notification when there's new? not a push, but the follow tab will be lit up\n\nShekhar Sharad:  q: do you have a previewer for publishers to see feed rendering in this? We don't but that is a good suggestion\n\nNick Krasney:  q: I write a feed reader - I'd like to import the users followed feeds from google - can we do that? we don't have that yet, but we're interested in what your dream API would look like\n\nShekhar Sharad:  q: can this not be tied to google's identity system? we want this to be available to all the open web - and we want to stick to that\n\nJanice Wong:  if we want to make this for multiple clients we need to work out how to provide that experience as well\n\nNick Krasney:  q: is this connected to feedburner changes? No it's unrelated to that\n\nJanice Wong:  to try this, go to play store on android and search for Chrome Canary -it's separate app from chrome to get  access to early features. The experiment will be in that in a couple of week\n\nNick Krasney:  q: are you using Web Actions for the follow button? No, but we'll look at that too\nwe want to build out the next 20 years for RSS on the open web\n\n", "published": "2021-05-19", "type": "entry"}, {"name": "Homebrew Website Club Teesside 2018-08-07", "url": "https://news.indieweb.org/en", "syndication": "https://news.indieweb.org/en", "content": "\nKevin Marks:  I haven't done much with my own site recently - I still have a hosted notes site at known.kevinmarks.com and haven't taken on moving it to somehting I control\nthinking about the problem of link decay - as Tim Berners-Lee said, \"eventually every URL ends up as a porn site\". http://www.kevinmarks.com/fragmentions.html\neven the venerable http://gmpg.org/ has got flaky, though Zegnat has been reconstructing it from archive.org https://zegnat.github.io/html-gmpgdotorg/\n@baekdal looked into the link decay problem for his own site and found a lot of missing links, but he also built an interstitial to redirect ot archive.org https://baekdal.com/trends/publishers-need-to-think-about-linkjacking-too/\nthis suggests that good practice would be to always ping archive.org to stash pages when you link to them. This is something I do at https://mention.tech when sending  webmentions - I archive both the links involved too.\nBut maybe we could do more - store a hash of the page as we saw it, and compare that with what is seen when viewed? Use the original link by default, switch to archive when we know it is bad, or after 3 months?\nfor the GMPG case, there's an issue here: https://github.com/Zegnat/html-gmpgdotorg/issues/1\ntrying out owning my own locations - it's really not much code to to do maps these days https://kevinmarks.github.io/maptime/ (inspiration from @AndrewJohnMarks and @ChristophaMarks\n\n", "published": "2018-08-07", "type": "entry"}, {"name": "Homebrew Website Club London 2018-01-24", "url": "https://news.indieweb.org/en", "syndication": "https://news.indieweb.org/en", "content": "\nCalum Ryan:  Welcome to Homebrew website club - my website is https://calumryan.com - I started working on it 5 years ago\nthe most recent change I have made to it is to use CSS Grid for it, which is more cosmetic\nMy site supports webmentions, and is hooked up to brid.gy for twitter and facebook replies too. I was the first person to post weather status\nI post checkins to my site and syndicate them out\n\nDave Letorey:  I'm Dave - I only just built a personal website at https://letorey.co.uk/ - it has not much design at the moment, but the most important part is the content not the way it looks\nas we go into the future wiht screen readers and voice UI how it looks matters less, so rather than worrying about looks I just made a simple grid layout \nI don't have any javascript - just simple CSS - the whole point is to learn, and docusmetn what I am doing\n\nChris Burnell:  I'm Chris - I use my website for testing mainly - I went the other way round and obsessed with how it looked\nthis year is the year of writing content. I am using webmention.io at the moment - I'd like to add a micropub endpoiny\n\nKevin Marks:  my website is kevinmarks.com but I have been experimenting with the Beaker browser and Fritter\nso my website is also available at dat://b7930c5e0d55aee8aeb6fa996c8e782e2e9b99b62bf25cab0be7ae195f56a158\nin other news, we are celebrating one million webmentions https://snarfed.org/1-million-webmentions - and @calumn_ryan brought cupcakes\nMore news this week - WebSub (formerly known as PubSubHubbub) is a w3c REC and IndieAuth is a w3c NOTE https://aaronparecki.com/2018/01/23/34/w3c-websub-indieauth\nthe beaker browser is at https://beakerbrowser.com/ and Fritter is at https://github.com/beakerbrowser/fritter\n\nCalum Ryan:  to make your website more indieweb friendly, go to indiewebify.me and try the tools there to see if you have it marked up well\n\nKevin Marks:  @calum_ryan is walking @dletorey and @iamchrisburnell through indiewebify.me  -they're signed into the indieweb.org wiki\n\nCalum Ryan:  I'm working on https://indiewebguides.org/ which is based on the indieweb.org wiki, but focused on less technical users of the web\n\nKevin Marks:  an editorial on the advantages of #indieweb from @godaddy https://www.godaddy.com/garage/indieweb-facebook-opportunities/\na progressive web app generator that is a PWA itself: https://joreteg.com/blog/pwa-spawns-pwas\n\n", "published": "2018-01-24", "type": "entry"}, {"uid": "https://xoxo.zone/@KevinMarks/101021896824016025", "author": {"url": "https://xoxo.zone/@KevinMarks", "photo": "https://xoxo.zone/system/accounts/avatars/000/000/065/original/f2fd8f5813814b3b.jpg?1492561599", "type": "card", "name": "Kevin Marks"}, "url": "https://xoxo.zone/@KevinMarks/101021896824016025", "content": "So mastodon wants URLs with http in trying out https://mention.tech sending webmentions to http://kevinmarks.com from mastodon", "published": "2018-11-06T02:36:54+00:00", "type": "entry", "name": "Kevin Marks\n\n\n@KevinMarks@xoxo.zone\n\n\n\n\nFollow\nSo mastodon wants URLs with http in trying out https://mention.tech sending webmentions to http://kevinmarks.com from mastodon\n\n\n\nNov 06, 2018, 02:36\n\u00b7\nWeb\n\u00b7\n0\n\u00b7\n0\n\u00b7\n0\n\n\n\n\n\nSign in to participate in the conversation"}, {"url": "http://socialwg.indiewebcamp.com/irc/social/2015-12-02", "type": "entry", "published": "2015-12-02T18:54:58.297340"}, {"url": "http://mention-tech.appspot.com/", "type": "entry", "published": "2015-11-28T10:48:29.177380"}]}